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Information On All Chinese Equipment

LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★
edited April 10 in General


This thread is used to collect information about infantry equipment and combat vehicles in China. OWI had a roadmap for "Pan-Asia" aka PLA Ground Force in the game. This thread is here to provide some information on Chinese equipment so that OWI team can develop a more authentic PLA and save some research time.

Most of these information are also available from other game community such as Project Reality and War Thunder etc. If you have some information about PLA vehicles and equipment, you can post this topic as well.

There was a reddit post speculating PLA equipment in Squad that was done by me about a year ago (I did it after the release of MEA because I was excited about future factions). I will repost some of those image and correct some mistake I made.


Infantry Weapons, Non-Specialist

QBZ95-1


AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP10

RATE OF FIRE: 650RPM

FIRE MODE: Full-Auto, Semi-Auto

OPTICS: YMA95-1-600 (3x), QMK171 (3x)

YMA95-1-600 is the improved successor to the original QBZ95's YMA95 scope.

Below is YMA95's sight picture. YMA95-1's sight picture cannot be found online


Below is QBZ-95 with QMK171

QMK171 is a new generation scope developed alongside the QBZ191 rifle family. QMK171 is compatible with older Type 95 and Type 03 series rifles. Good thing is that info about this scope can be easily found on Google.


QMK171 Sight picture

QBZ03

AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP10

RATE OF FIRE: 750 RPM

FIRE MODE: Full-Auto, Semi-Auto

OPTICS: YMA03 (3x), QMK171 (3x)


QBZ03 with YMA03

QBZ03 with QMK171


QBZ95B-1

AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP10

RATE OF FIRE: 800RPM

FIRE MODE: Full-Auto, Semi-Auto

OPTICS: YMA95-1-600 (3x), QMK171 (3x)


QJB95-1

AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP10

RATE OF FIRE: 650RPM

FIRE MODE: Full-Auto, Semi-Auto

OPTICS: YMA95-1-600 (3x), in theory it also compatible with QMK171, however no picture found yet.


QLG-10A

AMMO: DFS10 high explosive fragmentation, DFJ10 high explosive armor piercing. DFD10 smoke

CALIBER: 35×32mm


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  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Infantry Weapons, Non-Specialist


    QBU88

    AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP88 "heavy round", or 5.8×42mm DBP141 "sniper round"

    RATE OF FIRE: Semi

    FIRE MODE: Semi-Auto

    OPTICS: YMA88 (3-9x) 3x FOV 9° , 9x FOV 3°

    QSZ-92

    AMMO: 5.8×21mm DAP92

    RATE OF FIRE: Semi

    FIRE MODE: Semi-Auto

    OPTICS: Iron


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Infantry Weapons, Specialist (Machine Gunner, Heavy Grenadier)


    QJY88

    AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP88 "heavy round"

    RATE OF FIRE: 700RPM

    OPTICS: Iron, Unknown low-level zoom optics, similar to YMA95.

    QJY88 is an interesting weapon. Chinese PLA does not deploy any "normal" GPMG in any echelon, because PLA believed QJZ89 heavy machine gun can replace regular GPMG such as M240 or PKM. Thus, they employed QJY88 as company/platoon level fire support weapon. But it's claimed that infantry found the QJY88 hard to use in formation. At company level, QJZ89 with 12.7mm ammo provide much better penetration and suppressive fire. While in platoon and squad level, QJB95 LSW can provide enough fire support power. Thus, QJY88 stuck in an awkward position. It is reported less than one thousand QJY88s were manufactured after its induction in service.


    As mentioned in the original Reddit thread. PLA Ground Force employs handheld automatic grenade launchers at squad level, which is a fairly unique arrangement among world's militaries.

    QLZ87

    CALIBER: 35x32mm SR

    RATE OF FIRE: 500RPM

    MAGAZINE SIZE: 6 or 15

    AMMO TYPE:

    DFS87-35 HE Fragmentation

    DFJ87-35 HE Armor Piercing

    DFR87-35 Incendiary

    DFN87-35 Incendiary Fragmentation

    DFD87-35 Smoke


    190m/s muzzle velocity


    Unknown Type Scope (1) Likely called YMA87

    Unknown Type Scope (2)


    PF89A & PF89B

    CALIBER: 80mm

    OPTICS: Unknown type of optic (2.5x)

    PLA Ground Force's principle light, single use, shoulder-launched, anti-tank, anti-fortification rocket launcher.

    PF98A is the HE fragmentation variant, PF98B is the tandem anti tank variant

    It should function similar to the RPG-26 and M136 (AT-4) in game.

    Below is the sight picture for PF89

    Very similar in function to RPG-7


    PF89A 147m/s muzzle velocity

    PF89B 140m/s muzzle velocity


    PF98A

    CALIBER: 120mm

    OPTICS: Y/MK/PF-98(Y)-120 (4x)

    PLA Ground Force's heavy anti-tank, anti-fortification recoilless gun (A Chinese M4 Gustaf). PF98A is the most common ones in 2010s.

    AMMO TYPE:

    DZP/PF98A-120: Tandem anti-tank

    246m/s muzzle velocity


    DZY/PF98A-120: Incendiary fragmentation

    205m/s muzzle velocity


    PF98A has a fire control sight. However, it's sight picture is unknown. It's known that the sight has ability to calculate rocket drop and lead for the shooter.

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Infantry Equipment


    FSL02 Smoke Grenade

    There's little information available online. Only some technical details such as the grenade dimensions. Most sources are from sites like Wikipedia. It's very likely that FSL02 is a copy of M18 smoke grenade.


    Type 82-2 Grenade or DSS161

    Type 82-2 is the most common hand grenade in PLA Ground Force service.

    DSS161 seems to be the improved version with a new designation.

    QNL95 Bayonet

    Chinese copy of M9 Bayonet, end of story.


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★


    Emplacement


    QJZ89

    QJZ89 is a Chinese heavy machine gun.

    AMMO: 12.7×108mm Type 89

    RATE OF FIRE: 450RPM to 600RPM

    FIRE MODE: Full-auto

    OPTICS: Unknown type (3x), likely named YMA89


    AFT8 (HJ-8)

    HJ means Red Arrow in Chinese. AFT8 is likely the military designation for it.

    HJ-8 was featured in Battlefield 2, Battlefield 4 and Project Reality. It's a Chinese TOW. And that's pretty much it.

    PP-87

    Chinese 82mm mortar


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Light Attack and Recon Vehicle


    CSK181 6x6 MRAP

    Chinese light protected MRAP vehicle.

    Functionally similar to the US M-ATV.

    It can mount either QJZ89 heavy machine gun or QLZ87 automatic grenade launcher on its remote weapon station.


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Armored Personal Carriers and Infantry Fighting Vehicles

    ZBL08

    ZBL08 is an infantry fire support vehicle similar to M1126 Stryker. It has one driver, one gunner, one commander (a passenger in game) and seven passenger seats. The weapons include ZPT99 30×165mm autocannon, QJT88 5.8×42mm coaxial machine gun and AFT73 (HJ-73) ATGM.


    ZBD04A

    ZBD04A is an infantry fire support vehicle similar to M2A3 Bradley. It has one driver, one gunner, one commander (a passenger in game), and seven passenger seats. The weapons include 100mm 2A70 with 9M117M1, ZPT99 30×165mm autocannon and Type 86 7.62×54mmR coaxial machine gun


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Main Battle Tank


    ZTZ99A

    It's speculated by basically anyone who had interest in Chinese vehicles that OWI will implement ZTZ99A as the main battle tank for "Pan-Asia" faction.

    The MBT has 3 seats, a driver, a gunner, and a commander.

    The weapons include ZPT98A 125mm smoothbore cannon.

    The ammo types include:

    DTC10-125 APFSDS

    DTP125 HEAT

    DTB125 Frag-HE-Tracer

    GP125 ATGM

    Secondary weapons include Type 86 7.62×54mmR coaxial machine gun and QJC88 12.7×108mm anti-aircraft gun.

    Protection includes 81mm smoke grenade


  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited April 11

    Everything there is to know is already sent to OWI way before you made this thread, and before v1.0.

    There are also inaccuracies such as PF-89B(it's PF-89-1), 89A is not simply HE-frag, it's multi purpose has armor penetrating tip(so technically tandem, with HEAT at front and HE-frag followup) that can do 20mm RHA at 65 degrees.

    "PF98A is the HE fragmentation variant, PF98B is the tandem anti tank variant" - you also got 89 mixed up with 98.



    Because PLAmod was cancelled for the most part when OWI decided to pretend to have "pan asia" faction.

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    okay...I shouldn't edit my last reply...now it needs mod approval to show up. anyway, thank you for your comment!

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    ZSL02B (WZ550 HJ-9)

    I forgot to post the TOW vehicle for PLA.

    ZSL02B is a 4x4 guided missile carrier for the PLA. It equips laser beaming riding HJ-9 152 mm anti-tank guided missile, which should be fairly similar to 9M133 Kornet.

    Vehicle has 3 seats: driver, gunner and commander.


    also found a photo of PF98A ammo carrier, poor guy


  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Equipment Summary (Expected)


    Small Arms

    QBZ95-1 - Assault Rifle

    QBZ95B-1 - Carbine

    QBZ03 - Assault Rifle

    QJB95-1 - Light Machine Gun

    QJY88 - General Purpose Machine Gun

    QBU88 - Designated Marksman Rifle

    QBU191 - Designated Marksman Rifle

    QSZ92 - Pistol


    Grenade and Launchers

    DSS161 - Fragmentation Grenade

    FSL02 - Smoke Grenade

    QLG10A - Grenade Launcher

    QLZ87 - Automatic Grenade Launcher

    PF89 - Rocket Launcher

    PF98A - Recoilless Rifle


    Emplacements

    QJZ89 - Heavy Machine Gun

    AFT8 - Anti-Tank Guided Missile Launcher

    PP87 - Mortar


    Vehicles (Expected)


    Ground Vehicles

    CTM132 - Transport and Logistics

    CSK181 (QJZ89) - Recon and Light Attack

    CSK181 (QLZ87) - Recon and Light Attack

    ZSL02B - Tank Hunter

    ZBL08 - Armored Personnel Carrier

    ZBD04A - Infantry fighting vehicle

    ZTZ99A - Main Battle Tank


    Air Support

    Z-9 Haitun - Transport Helicopter

    GJ-2 - Commander UAV

  • GeebusGeebus Member Posts: 140 ★★

    Interesting post. I can't imagine how hard it might be to get the sight pictures for reference on a lot of these weapons and systems. Heck, even just getting good interior photographs might be hard. Just from my experience, it just doesn't seem like there is a whole lot of the super detailed stuff on the english side of the internet, though I wouldn't be too surprised if its much the same for the Chinese side.

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited April 27

    It's actually very easy considering most of the sights are shown on tv programs that are posted to youtube.

  • thebiglezthebiglez Member Posts: 39 ★★

    What do you think will be the "speciality" of the pan-asia faction? For example, the English have the two reacons, Canada has the Sniper, AU has the 2 engineers etc.

  • thebiglezthebiglez Member Posts: 39 ★★

    I realized its going to be the grenade launchers. Cant wait!

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited May 2

    There are two main things: high velocity grenade launcher(with FCS, as in laser rangefinder...etc.), and lightest heavy machinegun in the world(at least in the 12.7mm range).

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    Yes. AGL is probably Pan-Asia's special thing in Squad, and there's also no 7.62mm GPMG.

  • sneakylikeasneksneakylikeasnek Member Posts: 85 ★★

    The UK's specialty if anything is its AT, the marksman kits are both laughably bad. The NLAW and their APCs are their calling card, mostly the 40mm warrior.

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited May 5

    L86 got buffed when SUSAT in general got buffed.

    L85 is already statistically superior to all other infantry rifles(besides the overpowered ef88) on anything except rate of fire. It *was* (again, ef88) the lowest recoiling infantry rifle, with best scope available. And SL is still the only one who gets bipod + no tracers.

    Only standard primary rifle that could compete at range was G3 and that thing is nearly uncontrollable(it has both a lower skill floor and a lower skill ceiling for vast majority of infantry engagement ranges).


    UK's specialty *was* its overpowered infantry and competitive vehicles(there is no real flaw to CR2 after multiple rounds of buffs making its main armor areas immune to basically any AT weapon, increased ammocapacity despite no increase to size of ammorack, two laser rangefinder seats besides the gunner's). It got replaced by AUS which has even more overpowered infantry(imagine UK but shoots faster and has scope on GPMG, which has very little recoil when standing) and less powerful apc/ifv(more powerful tank though).

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    QJY201. OWI won't add that one since they said in the first developer Q&A that Pan Asia is going to be based on 2010s PLA. Don't get me wrong, I WISH they add the QJY201 and QBZ/QBU191 and change their mind.

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited May 12

    They added 40mm warrior...etc. which were stillborn.

  • ABG MatsozetexABG Matsozetex Member Posts: 31 ★★

    I don't believe that we will see a TOW vehicle for the Chinese like the one you demonstrated. OWI is moving away from implementing TOW vehicles for conventional factions, let alone implementing another "safe" ATGM vehicle. If they were to even get one, I would wager China would get something like what MEA has - an ATGM carrier that is on an unarmoured car.

  • MrPeachMrPeach Member Posts: 5 Civilian

    wooooooo look sexy!

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★
    edited May 16

    BRDM-2 and such should be made to have crew killable. (9p148 should also have far worse firing arc and shouldn't rotate 360 degrees)

    The ATGM vehicle here is not much better armored than BRDM-2.

  • sneakylikeasneksneakylikeasnek Member Posts: 85 ★★

    I feel like any wheeled non-APC should be made unusable/destroyed by a center-mass LAT hit. MRAPs, TAPVs, BRDMs, etc, they all seem too tanky.

  • EcchiRevengeEcchiRevenge Member Posts: 473 ★★

    That's the case with all vehicles. Especially since they removed doubledamage bug, which was usable on logi.

  • sneakylikeasneksneakylikeasnek Member Posts: 85 ★★

    Yes vehicles in general are too tanky. But I think it's more dramatic at the lighter end of the spectrum, where you can sink an AT rocket into the engine of a logistics truck and not immediately kill it.

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    My old post is still not approved. So here's a repost of my old post and rest of the line-up for Pan Asia (PLA)


    Infantry Weapons


    Marksman


    QBU191

    QBU191 is the current Chinese marksman rifle replacing QBU88.

    In real life, QBU191 has higher accuracy (800M effective range vs 600m), much better customizability (rails) and full-auto capability. QBU88, in a pure gameplay sense, isn't very competitive among conventional factions due to its small caliber + 10 rounds magazine. On the other hand, QBU191 has 30 round magazine, which imo is much more useful than QBU88. I hope OWI can implement this weapon for Pan Asia's marksman or give it to the players as a choice.


    AMMO: 5.8×42mm DBP10 or 5.8×42mm DBP191

    RATE OF FIRE: 750 RPM

    FIRE MODE: Full-Auto, Semi-Auto

    OPTICS: QMK171A (3x) or CS/OS20A (4x-15x variable zoom)

    A PLA marksman team equipped with QBU191 marksman rifle (spotter) and QBU202 sniper rifle (chambered in 8.6×70mm DBU-202)


    Transport and Logistics

    CTM134 and CTM132

    Other conventional factions all have single-cab 4x4 or 6x6 tactical transport truck. Chinese PLA is equipped with MV3 series tactical truck with multiple configs. CTM134 is the single-cab 4x4 configuration and CTM132 is the 6x6 single cab configuration.

    4x4 and 6x6 in SQUAD has virtually no difference in the gameplay.

    4x4 and 6x6 chassis MV3 trucks

    Vehicle should have around 12 seats (no dedicated crewman needed)



    Transport helicopter


    Z-9

    Z-9 is a very iconic utility helicopter employed by the PLA and it was featured in Battlefield 2, Battlefield 4 and Project Reality. It's expected that OWI will implement this helicopter for Pan Asia.

    Z-9 with FLIR and weapon mounts

    A Bolivia Z-9 showing interior


    Z-9 is slightly smaller than an UH-60, but according to various source, it can take 10 passenger and 1 pilot. So it makes virtually no difference in gameplay.

    The helicopter can be fitted with QJH001 heavy machine gun, which is a modified QJC88 heavy machine gun (the same AA gun mounted on the ZTZ99A tank)

  • LonedLoned Member Posts: 25 ★★

    I think the problem lays in that light armored vehicle (like BRDM) having too much health in game. heavy armor should be able to take out light armored vehicle in one or two shots, making light tow vehicles have higher risk.

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