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I was getting instantly script killed today out of nowhere several times without any shots fired. Other guys from my team observed exactly the same thing. Couldn't even figure out who is doing this script instant killing me out of nowhere like some sort of death grim reaper.

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Fair enough, but then I'll ask again: how would I notice or find out that someone is hacking? How can I tell if a kill on me is "legit" or not? And if I notice that I'm getting killed illegitimately; how would I know WHO did it?

 

Unless they're running something super obvious (standing beside you with the grenade hack, etc), then as a regular player there's little you can do. However as an admin you're able to go into spectate mode (which also allows you to see the K/D stats), so finding those with aimbots (yeah they're out there) and the GL hack is a lot easier.

 

If you do not like the hackers, find servers that have active admins, or at the very least those with a teamspeak server where you can find an admin if you need one. I know we're not always on, but many have an easy way to find them. I've had multiple people find me on teamspeak to report hackers late at night. I can't speak for our other admins, but if someone's taken the time to come find an admin, I'm more than happy to jump into a server regardless of what I have going on to deal with an in game issue.

 

As for proof that someone is hacking... does a screenshot really do much? Uploading video is a pain in the ass... but unless you're very lucky with the screenshot, will it actually show you what you need it to show that player X was beyond any doubt hacking?

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I also captured footage on a suspected (I'd say confirmed, but you know, gotta stay neutral in this) aimbotting player, got his steam profile link (3x vac ban history), and reported it here on the forums. I hope they'll be able to filter out these players. (Why don't they filter out VAC banned players, by the way?)

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(Why don't they filter out VAC banned players, by the way?)

 

Probably for a lot of reasons. One of them perhaps being not everyone has legitimate VAC bans. Sometimes people do get them for entirely useless and unnecessary reasons.

 

Also, just because someone's cheated in a game perhaps a few years ago doesn't necessarily mean they will cheat in something else. 

 

The 'once a cheater, always a cheater' thing is, in all actuality, a childish philosophy and totally removes the chance at redemption out of the equation.

 

Also, Squad isn't using VAC anyway.

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Hax are Hax. Lifetime ban totally acceptable.

Redemption? Lulz.

Im old skool though. Maybe being a haxor is acceptable these days?

You made a mistake when you were 13 years old and purchased some scripts with daddy's credit card, tough shit.

I don't understand why the community has to accept there will always be a percentage of haxors. Zero tollerance!

29 bans for hax on the EXODUS list, mostly sourced from the valuable reports people submit on these boards.

Maybe people's opinions on this differ, I accept that. But we've been fighting haxors of our servers for ten years now and our opinion of them is dirt. They ruin it for everyone, cause endless issues, kill servers and go against all principles of the community and gaming in general.

The only solution in my opinion is to work together to combat this and thus far people have been doing a good job.

Keep it up.

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Hax are Hax. Lifetime ban totally acceptable.

Redemption? Lulz.

 

I was responding to why the devs haven't "filtered out" players with VAC bans.

 

From a server admin standpoint, sure, your viewpoint perhaps makes sense.

 

But from a commercial standpoint.. why should a company blanket statement potential buyers/players of their game using a sometimes faulty and often times unrelated Anti-Cheat? Shouldn't the caveat be on them to provide their own security package solution and then deal with those who are found cheating? Especially when that potential 'filter' in from an anti-cheat package they themselves aren't even going to use?

 

Playing the devil's advocate here chronic.

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Keeping the community strong, working together, sharing information is the only REAL defence.

Battle eye, Infistar, VAC, whatever tool. Unless they're on your list they can enter your server. Information sharing will always be the best defence.

They boil my piss. I'm gonna go for a smoke now!

Roll on RCON.

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I am glad we are identifying the obvious ones - they are simply in it for the lols and I hope the devs come up with some cool ways to deal with them.

 

My concern is predominantly the 'closet hackers'(cheaters) - something far harder to spot unfortunately. They are absolutely running rife atm in the FPS genre and I sure as heck don't want Squad being infected by them.

 

*fingers crossed

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I'll say one year ban for hax, they know they are discovered sooner or later when they hack, so I think a one-year ban the first two times, third time life ban with online gamming. they have had their chance.

 

Nice job, creating a form for this.

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I've found a problem with Racism/stereotypes against Americans whenever I join a Squad with Russians in it. Every time I attempt to kindly greet them/communicate, I get a hailstorm of Anti American stereotypes followed by laughing. 

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Please do not post links to request information from people. We have a reporting link in the forums that reports to developers. We do not endorse this link. In the coming updates there will be more information on reporting processes but in the mean time please do not request information from people.

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I guess there is still way to prevent cheater from ruining the game. Just simply kicking him from squad might do the trick (he'll lose his specialist kit). Will that work?

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Straightforward, no bullshit answer: You really cant/dont. Its not something that you can instantly know right now. Simply the nature of the beast when it comes to developing games and having am anti cheat system in the works.. The easy ones to catch are the ones that fire off grenades and RPGs like a machine gun, or speed across the map twice as fast without slowing down. But right now it takes a lucky break or an attentive admin to catch suspicious players that most likely have some sort of aimbot on. Simply the way of the world for Squad right now. It will get better.

 

 

Actually it's easy to spot Wallhacking. Aimbot too, but wallhacking is way too easy.

 

Example just right now: Business "cult" guys wall hack without a problem, just had three very tense rounds against them, (all rounds I had very good positive K/D ratios 28/14, 9/2, 13/4) but on a map (First Light) they would hunt the RP's and FOB's without even skipping a beat. Like Arnold on Terminator. They'd just get beamed on our FOB's and RP's and come close to rape them. And every time they'd face resistance, you'd get insta-headshotted from nowhere. "Normal" players would get flanked, sneaked, but not the 3 Business guys (Fish, Turtle and Cat). They would have similar death counts (7/8 on the First Light, meaning they were team whoring the server).

 

While you'd say what evidence you have, I'd say there's not possible to beam every RP, FOB with the regularity they would do to us. The best part? They'd find us hiding in deap concealment and fire from the crests even if they wouldn't have a bead...that caused some funny moments when a tree trunk I was behind took every single round of a magazine, because there was no other possibility to touch me but through the tree.

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I was responding to why the devs haven't "filtered out" players with VAC bans.

 

From a server admin standpoint, sure, your viewpoint perhaps makes sense.

 

But from a commercial standpoint.. why should a company blanket statement potential buyers/players of their game using a sometimes faulty and often times unrelated Anti-Cheat? Shouldn't the caveat be on them to provide their own security package solution and then deal with those who are found cheating? Especially when that potential 'filter' in from an anti-cheat package they themselves aren't even going to use?

 

Playing the devil's advocate here chronic.

 

Ill try again Iron, removed my first post in response.

I don't agree with the full blanket system like Vac without providing proper information. A customer paying 100 dollars for a product then are banned for the potential you been caught running 3rd party applications. Ive read these before don't sit right with me.

 

Now on the other hand we need not just 1 system but 2-3 systems. The first system is loading, the 2nd system in internal server admin screenshot utility that starts taking screenshots randomly when something activates. 3rd system might be detecting other things, not common to the 1st, 2nd. However i don't believe we are quite ready for the 3rd system because of legal issues.

 

This was useful in AAPG, for UE2,UE3,UE4 It helped provide correct bans.

Some where over turned, which is good if the person has legit reasons behind the ban.

 

I must say though, its a better system then i realized. Also can be merged into this game too for server admins to send in info.

I get what your saying, i just had to revamp what i thought would be a better rephrased response. I am pro for the anti cheat system, and have to trust in the protection of others in fair game play.

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Unless they're running something super obvious (standing beside you with the grenade hack, etc), then as a regular player there's little you can do. However as an admin you're able to go into spectate mode (which also allows you to see the K/D stats), so finding those with aimbots (yeah they're out there) and the GL hack is a lot easier.

 

If you do not like the hackers, find servers that have active admins, or at the very least those with a teamspeak server where you can find an admin if you need one. I know we're not always on, but many have an easy way to find them. I've had multiple people find me on teamspeak to report hackers late at night. I can't speak for our other admins, but if someone's taken the time to come find an admin, I'm more than happy to jump into a server regardless of what I have going on to deal with an in game issue.

 

As for proof that someone is hacking... does a screenshot really do much? Uploading video is a pain in the ass... but unless you're very lucky with the screenshot, will it actually show you what you need it to show that player X was beyond any doubt hacking?

Have you ever tried to administer the ACI anti cheat system? there a screenshot does wonders to the system behind the scene. It doesn't matter what system we use someone will bypass it no matter what but if we can use 3 systems we might have a good chance to slow those older cheats down.

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Do we Server Admins get a List of people we can bann? I asked that question

Well, i havent got much feedback yet from the Devs about that - so this is  A SERVER ADMIN INITIATIVE

 

Server admins have been working together to share relevant information about hackers together.

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Actually it's easy to spot Wallhacking. Aimbot too, but wallhacking is way too easy.

 

Example just right now: Business "cult" guys wall hack without a problem, just had three very tense rounds against them, (all rounds I had very good positive K/D ratios 28/14, 9/2, 13/4) but on a map (First Light) they would hunt the RP's and FOB's without even skipping a beat. Like Arnold on Terminator. They'd just get beamed on our FOB's and RP's and come close to rape them. And every time they'd face resistance, you'd get insta-headshotted from nowhere. "Normal" players would get flanked, sneaked, but not the 3 Business guys (Fish, Turtle and Cat). They would have similar death counts (7/8 on the First Light, meaning they were team whoring the server).

 

While you'd say what evidence you have, I'd say there's not possible to beam every RP, FOB with the regularity they would do to us. The best part? They'd find us hiding in deap concealment and fire from the crests even if they wouldn't have a bead...that caused some funny moments when a tree trunk I was behind took every single round of a magazine, because there was no other possibility to touch me but through the tree.

 

Hi, 

 

Ill take it as a compliment, we're having a great laugh :P.

 

By the way, we're not the average squad that simply just sits on their asses in a fob all day. We move around, and because we move around we come across people, where do these people come from? what direction? mhhh interesting, they all seem to come out of 1 specific direction. Maybe they might have a spawn point in that direction?  

 

Sorry, im not trying to make you like a complete retard but it's called common sense which sadly alot of people seem to miss these days.

Also, here you go 15 minutes full of me hacking (something that other people might call ''flanking''). 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay22FAbdcjQ

 

You've got what you wanted, you've got one of us banned from the server of the guy that started the thread. With your post as concrete proof.

 

 

:lol:

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Has the issue where someone has been banned, but is still able to come back with the same steam account been resolved? Ran into this on the 14th, where I banned someone for aimbotting (he was at the main base with the MG and killed 6 people across the map, and was 40-4), and then another admin banned him the next day on the same server for the same thing - unfortunately only after he went 116-2.

 

When I talked to one of our server admins about this, I was just told that occasionally it happens.

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Hi, 

 

Ill take it as a compliment, we're having a great laugh :P.

 

By the way, we're not the average squad that simply just sits on their asses in a fob all day. We move around, and because we move around we come across people, where do these people come from? what direction? mhhh interesting, they all seem to come out of 1 specific direction. Maybe they might have a spawn point in that direction?  

 

Sorry, im not trying to make you like a complete retard but it's called common sense which sadly alot of people seem to miss these days.

Also, here you go 15 minutes full of me hacking (something that other people might call ''flanking''). 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay22FAbdcjQ

 

You've got what you wanted, you've got one of us banned from the server of the guy that started the thread. With your post as concrete proof.

 

 

:lol:

 

 

Ugh Jesus you're not the average squad who sees through bushes, and insta-lazes? Your own teammates on First Light outed you saying you were cheating.

You move around? Lol because we don't? Man we handed your asses over to you and we were 2. The only times you died on that First light was my Brother and me getting you cooked with RPG. The best part is that on the next Map, fools road, one of your idiot  friends beamed on me, without even being heard, no footseps no nothing. He just popped out of nowhere while I was in concealment just across from our main. You're no Big honcho, you're actually very poor, because of your tunnel vision. And that's the whole deal about it.

 

Also the flanking BS story is funny, because were weren't being flanked on First Light, we got you on contact Head ON. You were going through the same path as US, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. That's because of two possibilities. WH. Which I personally find the only plausible way to call this. OR using low Graphs and having no concealment. Like this..http://imgur.com/CuhbX14

 

Nevermind the one shotting. Close I can understand. But mid/long range, repeatedly...sorry son you're not fooling anyone.

 

And the funny part that you were indeed either WH or exploiting the game (glitches you told then), is that when you wallhack you get tunnel vision. And it's too obvious. You daft types were so sure nothing was going to happen, that you didn't count that possibly someone was going to come from behind. And that's how I actually got the three of you farming the FOB on First LIght. I had to spawn from MAIN and get to range. And suddenly, I still got shot from your position. Thank god for the OG-7

 

Also that's 15 minutes of you being with others, on 30 second clips. We don't see any kind of flanking, you're all in position BY THEN; It's the way you always "see" FOB's we don't get on your clip. That clip is BS. Shows no progress, you're already set for the kills in most of them.

 

Ridoc, just for a "shits and giggles" how did you concluded they were cheating? So you can settle the "we don't cheat" BS.

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Welly Welly Well ! Tis of no surprise to hear of discontent in reference to cheaters (aimbotters etc...)however you are taking the wrong approach by belittling the coding community.  Your emotional criticism toward those who cheat only acts as a catalyst against your ideals and furthermore gives a justified, though could be considered immoral, justification for coders to continue to develop tools. 

 

Do not underestimate the lengths in which some groups will go to damage the reputation of a game and thus the experience for those paying customers.  The rhetoric from members such as Ridoc and Business Turtle only expose the servers they represent.

 

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