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Just though I can start a topic and see what you guys think about any new nations you guys would like to see. Reasons why I think my chosen nation would work well in Squad is: Vehicle models in game can be used for it, weapon models, appropriate maps work for it, and the conflict it’s  are in today. And vehicles that are still used by it today.

 

1. Ukraine Army

Vehicles:

Tank: T-72

IFV: BMP-1, BMP-2
APC: BTR-80, BTR-82, MT-LB (NSVT and PKT Version)

Scout Car: BRDM-2

Anti Tank: BRDM Spandrel 

Anti Air: BMP-ZSU

Logistics- Zil-131

Transport: Zil-131

Heli: Mi-8

 

Weapons: 

Automatic Assault Rifle: AKM, AK-74, AK-74M, AKS-74, 
LMGs: PKM, RPK-74, RPK-74M

Carbines: AKS-74U

Sniper: SVD, SVDM

Pistol: PM

Anti Tank: RPG-7 (with and without optic) RPG-29

Grenades: F1, RGD-5

Knife: AKM Bayonet

Heavy Machine Guns (Stationary) : DSHKA, NSVT

Anti Tank Weapons (Stationary): SPG-9, 9M133 


Combat is still happening where Ukraine fights (War In Donbass). Can be used on maps like Yehorivka (based in Ukraine), Gorodok, or Belya (for alternate history) 

 

Opponents: Russian Army, Irregular Militia

 

What Nations do you guys they should add?

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Still waiting for an eastern based coventional or another unconventional.

Prefferably with other weaponary.

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imo Ukraine would be too similar to Russian forces. Basically just a slight re-skin. In other words, offers very little to the game in its current form. Like you said all of its equipment already exists in the game. By all means, create a Ukrainian army mod

 

A conventional army (for example MEC or some other (can be fictional)) to rival the current ones would be a better addition, 'cause right now it's still only the Russian army fighting against the other 3 (conv. army vs conv. army).

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I think it might be a nice addition to the game. It could give us the possibility to see some of the older versions of the T-72 or maybe even a T-64 or a T-80. For most of the other vehicles only a reskin would be necessary. There are quite a few different paint schemes that I've seen that could set them apart from the Russian ones.

 

Luckily the uniforms in Ukraine are much different to the Russian flora. For those that don't know the newest pattern is more of a digital tan.

 

I'd really love to see some of the nations that never show up in any games represented and squad is a great place to do it. With this I doubt we will be seeing it any time soon though. The game really needs another OPFOR conventional force. Right now everyone is up against the Russians all the time.

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Something OPFOR. The MEC from PR are a good example. It's a fictional but familiar military with a different feel to how they play. Adding something like them would be a big change if not just for the fact they have battle rifles (G3 variants) as their standard issue gun.

 

More specifically for a named military something like Iran would be cool because they have a mix of Eastern and Western equipment.

Also, China. I've posted a few times before how China would be a great faction because they have a very large inventory of Chinese designed and produced equipment making them different from just another Russian-equipped faction.

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MEC, China, Germany, France,Scandinavian faction are the factions i want to see most due to that most of these variate so much from each other and what we already have.

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Some sort of 2nd/3rd world army would be nice. Adding another Western faction doesnt improve the game. US/UK/Canada are all very equal. Im thinking something between the conventional forces and milita. Mainly older weaponry but still access to helicopters etc.

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On 2019-11-18 at 4:09 PM, Agris said:

imo Ukraine would be too similar to Russian forces. Basically just a slight re-skin. In other words, offers very little to the game in its current form. Like you said all of its equipment already exists in the game. By all means, create a Ukrainian army mod

 

A conventional army (for example MEC or some other (can be fictional)) to rival the current ones would be a better addition, 'cause right now it's still only the Russian army fighting against the other 3 (conv. army vs conv. army).

 

Id like to see Turkey. 

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Look at the grand example in wargame Red Dragon and there are plenty to choose from for Redfor.

E.g. China, Finland, North Korea, Yugoslavia, etc

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Hello everyone!

 

Recently I had a fun time thinking about a new factions into the game as well. I prepared a few of these into a small spreadsheet with full equipment for each roletype and role. Do you think I should post them into this thread, or start a new one for each faction? I'm new to this forum and I would not like to annoy some mods from the start so I'm asking first :).

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3 hours ago, Moosehead_Ctira said:

Hello everyone!

 

Recently I had a fun time thinking about a new factions into the game as well. I prepared a few of these into a small spreadsheet with full equipment for each roletype and role. Do you think I should post them into this thread, or start a new one for each faction? I'm new to this forum and I would not like to annoy some mods from the start so I'm asking first :).

Yeah go ahead and add it in this thread 

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I would love to see a Syrian Army or Iranian Army instead of a MEC. It could introduce the T-90 for Syria/Russia and Karrar (Visually similar to T-90) for Iran. Syria could go up against the Insurgents and USA/UK. Iran opponents could be Insurgents/USA. Personally, I like the idea of Iran more.

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Hello everyone again! 

 

So as I stated a few days ago, recently I had fun time thinking about some possible new factions to the game. First and foremost I would like to say that the number of factions at this point is in my opinion sufficient. There are other things, bugs and features that should be polished before introducing a new faction. 

 

The most obvious new factions are in my opinion French and Chinese army. Both armies have mostly indigenous equipment, and would be very fun to play imo. French could fight against Russians, Chinese or Insurgents... or possibly a reskined Insurgents as Touaregs or some other African unconventional forces. Chinese could fight the Russians, US, Brits or basically everyone :)... Other new factions could be some other european army with interesting equipment like Germans, Italians, or Swedes. 

 

For my first possible new faction "showdown" I went for a homer pick and created a possible kits, equipment and vehicle list of Czech Armed Forces. This faction would offer an interesting mix of weapons that would be new to the game as well as some that would require only a reskin. A new map could be some Operation Flashpoint style map.

 

Command and Support

 

Squad Leader  

CZ805 A1 - Ironsights + Foregrip Bipod; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Foregrip Bipod; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

 

Lead Crewman

CZ805 A2 - Ironsights; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Bino + Vehicle Repair Kit

 

Medic

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue,; Field Dressings + Med Kit; Bino + Entrenching Tool

 

Crewman

CZ805 A2 - Ironsights; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Vehicle Repair Kit

 

Direct Combat

 

Rifleman

CZ805 A1 - Ironsights + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Ammo

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Ammo

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Ammo

 

Automatic Rifleman

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + EOTech; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entreching Tool

 

Fire Support

 

Designated Marksman

SVDS + PSO-1; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Automatic Rifleman

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + EOTech + G33; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

 

Grenadier

CZ 805 A1 + CZ 805 G1 + Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife; G1 Grenades; G1 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

 

Light Anti-Tank

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; RPG-7V; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; RPG-7V; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool 

 

Specialist

 

Sniper

Sako TRG 22; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Machine Gunner

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + AimPoint Comp M2; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Heavy Anti-Tank

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife; Carl Gustav M3; M3 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; Carl Gustav M3; M3 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool 

 

Combat Engineer

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; Plastic Explosives + Tank Mine; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Vehicle Repair Kit + Sandbags + Razor Wire

 

 

Vehicles

 

Transport                                           Tatra T815 8x8 (or 6x6)/ Tatra T810 6x6

Logistics                                            Tatra T815 8x8 (or 6x6)/ Tatra T810 6x6

Light Attack and Recon                   Iveco LMV / Dingo 2 / Nexter Titus 6x6

Armored Personel Carriers            Pandur II

Infantry Fighting Vehicles              BMP 2

Main Battle Tank                              T-72M4CZ

Transport Helicopter                       Mi-171Sh (Mi-17)    

 

Notes:

 

- Primary rifle could also be the new BREN 2. Some batches are already issued however most of the army is still issued with the 805 A1/A2.

- With the introduction of the 805 rifle, there is also a new type of bayonet - CZ 805 Tactical Knife however I have no info whether they were actually issued or not so I went with the UTON knife.   

- Czech MoD bought new grenades in 2018 from Austrian company ARGES - SplHGr 85 (defensive grenade) and OffHGr 85 (offensive grenade). They are most certainly not in service yet.

- Smoke grenades are a big unknown for me, from what I know the old surplus RDG-1/2 smokes are still in use. However for deployments the M18s should be in use.

- Iveco LMV would be prefered over the Dingos as the Dingos were used only briefly in the Afghanistan.

- Nexter Titus 6x6 is not in service yet but could be an interesting in game as a Command Vehicle (possible some new game mechanic such as semimobile FOB?)- Czech army will replace the BMPs in soon future. The tender is still ongoing with three IFVs still competing - Rheinmetall Lynx, ASCOD and CV90.

 

Let me know how you like this format and if you would like to do this overviews for some other factions as well.

 

Edited by Moosehead_Ctira

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3 hours ago, Moosehead_Ctira said:

Hello everyone again! 

 

So as I stated a few days ago, recently I had fun time thinking about some possible new factions to the game. First and foremost I would like to say that the number of factions at this point is in my opinion sufficient. There are other things, bugs and features that should be polished before introducing a new faction. 

 

The most obvious new factions are in my opinion French and Chinese army. Both armies have mostly indigenous equipment, and would be very fun to play imo. French could fight against Russians, Chinese or Insurgents... or possibly a reskined Insurgents as Touaregs or some other African unconventional forces. Chinese could fight the Russians, US, Brits or basically everyone :)... Other new factions could be some other european army with interesting equipment like Germans, Italians, or Swedes. 

 

For my first possible new faction "showdown" I went for a homer pick and created a possible kits, equipment and vehicle list of Czech Armed Forces. This faction would offer an interesting mix of weapons that would be new to the game as well as some that would require only a reskin. A new map could be some Operation Flashpoint style map.

 

Command and Support

 

Squad Leader  

CZ805 A1 - Ironsights + Foregrip Bipod; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Foregrip Bipod; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue, Red; Field Dressings; Bino

 

Lead Crewman

CZ805 A2 - Ironsights; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Bino + Vehicle Repair Kit

 

Medic

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White, Blue,; Field Dressings + Med Kit; Bino + Entrenching Tool

 

Crewman

CZ805 A2 - Ironsights; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Vehicle Repair Kit

 

Direct Combat

 

Rifleman

CZ805 A1 - Ironsights + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Ammo

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino + Ammo

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Ammo

 

Automatic Rifleman

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + EOTech; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entreching Tool

 

Fire Support

 

Designated Marksman

SVDS + PSO-1; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Automatic Rifleman

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + EOTech + G33; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; - ; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

 

Grenadier

CZ 805 A1 + CZ 805 G1 + Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife; G1 Grenades; G1 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

 

Light Anti-Tank

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; RPG-7V; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; RPG-7V; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool 

 

Specialist

 

Sniper

Sako TRG 22; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Machine Gunner

FN Minimi (7,62x51 NATO) + AimPoint Comp M2; UTON Knife + CZ75 SP-01 Phantom; URG-86 Frag.; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Bino

 

Heavy Anti-Tank

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot; UTON Knife; Carl Gustav M3; M3 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + DV-Mag 3; UTON Knife; Carl Gustav M3; M3 Smoke gr.; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool 

 

Combat Engineer

CZ805 A1 - Meopta ZD-Dot + Vertical Grip; UTON Knife; Plastic Explosives + Tank Mine; M18 White; Field Dressings; Entrenching Tool + Vehicle Repair Kit + Sandbags + Razor Wire

 

 

Vehicles

 

Transport                                           Tatra T815 8x8 (or 6x6)/ Tatra T810 6x6

Logistics                                            Tatra T815 8x8 (or 6x6)/ Tatra T810 6x6

Light Attack and Recon                   Iveco LMV / Dingo 2 / Nexter Titus 6x6

Armored Personel Carriers            Pandur II

Infantry Fighting Vehicles              BMP 2

Main Battle Tank                              T-72M4CZ

Transport Helicopter                       Mi-171Sh (Mi-17)    

 

Notes:

 

- Primary rifle could also be the new BREN 2. Some batches are already issued however most of the army is still issued with the 805 A1/A2.

- With the introduction of the 805 rifle, there is also a new type of bayonet - CZ 805 Tactical Knife however I have no info whether they were actually issued or not so I went with the UTON knife.   

- Czech MoD bought new grenades in 2018 from Austrian company ARGES - SplHGr 85 (defensive grenade) and OffHGr 85 (offensive grenade). They are most certainly not in service yet.

- Smoke grenades are a big unknown for me, from what I know the old surplus RDG-1/2 smokes are still in use. However for deployments the M18s should be in use.

- Iveco LMV would be prefered over the Dingos as the Dingos were used only briefly in the Afghanistan.

- Nexter Titus 6x6 is not in service yet but could be an interesting in game as a Command Vehicle (possible some new game mechanic such as semimobile FOB?)- Czech army will replace the BMPs in soon future. The tender is still ongoing with three IFVs still competing - Rheinmetall Lynx, ASCOD and CV90.

 

Let me know how you like this format and if you would like to do this overviews for some other factions as well.

 

Damn thats pretty nice

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Gonna Piggy back off of the Czech post. The format is great. So I decided to steal it for a US Army faction around the mid to late 1980's. I would really love to see the cold war get some love in this game. I might put in the effort for a Soviet faction to face off with em if anybody like the initial idea.

 

Command and Support

 

Squad Leader

M16A2 - Iron Sights; Beretta M9 + M9 Bayonet; M61 Frag; 2x M18 White + M18 Red + M18 Blue; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars.

 

Lead Crewman

M3A1 Grease Gun - Iron Sights; Beretta M9 + M7 Bayonet;  2x M18 White + M18 Red + M18 Blue; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Vehicle Repair Kit.

 

Crewman

M3A1 Grease Gun - Iron Sights; M7 Bayonet;  2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Vehicle Repair Kit + Entrenching Tool.

 

Lead Pilot

Beretta M9 + M7 Bayonet; 2x M18 White + M18 Red + M18 Blue; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars.

 

Pilot

M1911 + M7 Bayonet; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Medic

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M1911 + M9 Bayonet; 2x M18 White + M18 Red + M18 Blue; 9x Field Dressing + Medical Kit; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Direct Combat

 

Rifleman

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M9 Bayonet; M61 Frag; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Sandbag + Ammo Bag + Entrenching Tool.

 

Automatic Rifleman

M249 - Iron Sights; M1911 + M9 Bayonet; M61 Frag; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Fire Support

 

Automatic Rifleman

M60 - Iron Sights; M1911 + M7 Bayonet; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Grenadier

M16A2 - Iron Sights + M203; M9 Bayonet; 10x 40mm HE + 2x 40mm White + 2x 40mm Blue + 2x 40mm Red; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Light Anti-Tank

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M9 Bayonet; M61 Frag; M72A2 LAW; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M9 Bayonet; 2x M72A2 LAW; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Medium Anti-Tank

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M9 Bayonet; M61 Frag; M135 AT4; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Specialist

 

Marksman

M21 - 3-9x Scope; M1911 + M7 Bayonet; M61 Frag; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Heavy Anti-Tank

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M9 Bayonet; M47 Dragon; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool.

 

Combat Engineer

M16A2 - Iron Sights; M7 Bayonet; C4 Demolition Charge + M15 Anti-Tank Mine; 2x M18 White; 2x Field Dressing; Binoculars + Entrenching Tool + Vehicle Repair Kit + Sandbag + Razor Wire.


 

Vehicles

 

Transport                M839 6x6

Logistics                M839 6x6

ATGM Carrier             M910 ITV / M113 w/ M47 Dragon

Armored Personnel Carrier        M113 w/ M2 Machine Gun

Main Battle Tank            M1A1 Abrams

Infantry Fighting Vehicle        M2A1 Bradley

Transport Helicopter        UH-1H Iroquois / UH-60A Blackhawk 

 

Notes:

 

- I tried to keep the equipment around the mid 1980’s time period. I believe one of the newest pieces of equipment here is the AT4.

- The M839 will finally fit in with a time period!

- The M47 Dragon would be a little interesting to see seeing it is an infantry portable wire guided missile. Luckily for balance sake it wasn't a very good one. Slow missile and must be mounted on a bipod before firing.

- Honestly the Huey would be a cooler addition due to it being unique but the Black hawk would probably fit better as the UH-1 was getting a little long in the tooth at that point.

- Commander supports could stay the same with no effect on authenticity.

- Models would have to be changed slightly from what they are in game in order to fit the time period. No CROWs or turret shields. ERA blocks removed.

- Sadly we can’t have Humvees due to copyright concerns so I put M113s in their place. They probably fit better anyways for infantry transport.

- FOB emplacements could stay relatively the same with the removal of the ACOG mounts.

- FOB Hescos would probably have to be changed for something else. I don’t believe that Hescos were around until the late 80’s

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