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LSW is a marksman?!

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How come this weapon is a part of the squad marksman class. To my knowledge GB is the only faction with a squad marksman and the LSW is a light support weapon. Mainly a AR. Why couldnt they just give players 2 options for squad AR? I thought it was a glitch in testing but im reading the release log and it seems like its intensional

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Before the L129A1 the British Army used the LSW as a marksman rifle due to it being utter turd at its original intended role.

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Ouch, how did it suck so bad? I mean the russian LMG is basically ak with longer barrel and more ammo, so why didnt the similar work?

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On 5/4/2018 at 2:37 PM, OVKHuman said:

Ouch, how did it suck so bad? I mean the russian LMG is basically ak with longer barrel and more ammo, so why didnt the similar work?

the base gun (sa80) already sucking likely had something to do with it

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According to Wikipedia the big issue was that it was unable of providing actual sustained fire due to it being magazine fed and because you can't change the barrel on it.

 

The RPK has these same issues, not sure why the Russians never went for a light-weight belt-fed MG, but instead kept to the RPK and the PKM.

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49 minutes ago, SShadowFox said:

According to Wikipedia the big issue was that it was unable of providing actual sustained fire due to it being magazine fed and because you can't change the barrel on it.

 

The RPK has these same issues, not sure why the Russians never went for a light-weight belt-fed MG, but instead kept to the RPK and the PKM.

 

The Russians don't use the RPK much anymore from what I understand. Instead they use a lot more GPMGs than other armies.

 

Also, the RPK at least had an extended magazine to help in some small amount but I don't think the LSW ever did.

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1 hour ago, SShadowFox said:

According to Wikipedia the big issue was that it was unable of providing actual sustained fire due to it being magazine fed and because you can't change the barrel on it.

 

The RPK has these same issues, not sure why the Russians never went for a light-weight belt-fed MG, but instead kept to the RPK and the PKM.

Maybe the same reason marines are replacing 249s for m27s

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15 hours ago, SShadowFox said:

According to Wikipedia the big issue was that it was unable of providing actual sustained fire due to it being magazine fed and because you can't change the barrel on it.

 

The RPK has these same issues, not sure why the Russians never went for a light-weight belt-fed MG, but instead kept to the RPK and the PKM.

They did before, the RPD, but they replaced it with the RPK for a couple of reasons.
And the RP46 technically, Forgotten Weapons and InrangeTV both just released a video on it.

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  The idea behind the L86 LSW was part of an attempt at be able to make multiple types of weapons based on the same basic platform (the SA80), that being the assault rifle (L85), the support weapon (L86) and the carbine (L22). It was felt that the United Kingdom needed this as it hasn't had a proper section LMG support weapon since the Second World War Bren gun, which was STILL being used up to the 1980s. (They introduced the L7 GPMG in the 60s, but it was seen to be too heavy for section support and served largely as a Medium Machine Gun instead.)

 

  Like the Bren, the L86 had a 30 round magazine, medium rate of fire and was highly accurate, so on paper it seemed like a good idea. Unfortunately, the lack of a changeable barrel made it pretty poor in a support role and the widespread use of assault rifles meant that 30 rounds was no longer particularly impressive for an LMG. Eventually, the British started buying the FN Minimi in 2004 and the LSW found its role as a support weapon pretty redundant. 

 

  It was, however, quite accurate at range (even more than the L85) thanks to its extremely long barrel, and the L86 found life as a section marksman weapon while the MOD tried to find a more purpose-built replacement. The more reliable A2 variant actually made a fairly decent marksman weapon (considering it wasn't supposed to be one) until the MOD bought the L129A1 Sharpshooter in 2010 and slowly phased it in. 

 

In short: The LSW was only a support weapon until 2004, after which it was officially assigned to marksman duties. In both real life, and in gameplay terms, it is just an L85A2 with better accuracy at range, which is largely why it serves as a squad-level marksman kit. (It's worth mentioning as well that while it is the only squad-level marksman in the game so far, it is also the only marksman weapon that uses 5.56 rather than 7.62.)

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