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So forgive me as I have been out of the PC world for almost 15 years. But I recently bought a brand new Alienware Aurora R7 just to play this game. I have about 40 hours of gameplay and having been having some issues and recently they have gotten even worse. 

 

So the R7 has the following. 

 

- Nvidia Gtx 1080 w/ 8gb

- I7 8700 watercooled from factory 

- 16gb of ddr4

-  2tb HDD

- Windows 10

- unsure about the power source and motherboard as Alienware doesn’t really disclose it. 

 

Ive ran the game on servers overclocks as well as stock and am still having issues. Gpu stays around 70c and the cpu stays around 55c. Can’t fogureljt how to overclock the cpu because it wasn’t equipped with Oc software by Alienware. Either way I should not being have these issues. I have cleared my game cache and ran every setting in game from lowest to highest. Also had a horrible frame rate in borederless compared to fullscreen(my compass disappears while playing in fullscreen after the first time I die)

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I would need everything described very well. Thank you. 

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Few couple to start off with.

1. Ensure full texture loading is disabled in the Squad settings.

2. Put v-sync on to limit the frames to 60 (assuming thats your monitor refresh rate)

 

See if that stabilises your game frames and then we can go from there.

The only way to OC your 8700 fairly easily is with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility tool right? And even then it will be a small OC. It's not a K chip. You don't need to OC that chip, it is powerful enough stock.

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On 4/6/2018 at 11:30 PM, SHO-SHIN said:

Few couple to start off with.

1. Ensure full texture loading is disabled in the Squad settings.

2. Put v-sync on to limit the frames to 60 (assuming thats your monitor refresh rate)

 

See if that stabilises your game frames and then we can go from there.

The only way to OC your 8700 fairly easily is with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility tool right? And even then it will be a small OC. It's not a K chip. You don't need to OC that chip, it is powerful enough stock.

Thank you for the response. i didnt think I needed to OC it either but all Im hearing is that it must be my processor, Do you think a SSD will help at all? Some say yes while others say it made no difference to them. Some say to try older drivers for my GPU. I have noticed that the frames do seem to spike right before the screen freezes and then I see the frame counter jump down to 1 or zero real quick and back up. Its really affecting my gameplay and happening at the worst times.

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On 4/7/2018 at 12:30 PM, SHO-SHIN said:

1. Ensure full texture loading is disabled in the Squad settings.

With 8GB or VRAM and 16GB of memory ? o.O

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Ok so I turned Vsyn to adaptive and I also tried it as just on. It is locking me at 30fps. Game actually does look a lot better and Im not experiencing the slight tearing when I'm in building or close to walls. I also turned the the preload maps setting to on as well to see what happens. My TV is 60hz but I will be getting a gsync soon. would like to make this game more playable in the meantime though. Also would like to gert above 30fps. any other tips now so I'm not stuck with xbox graphics? Didn't spend this much money for this graphics card to play at 30fps. Thanks.

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1 hour ago, Psyrus said:

With 8GB or VRAM and 16GB of memory ? o.O

Yes I want to make sure OP is not running out of Vram on occasions. i realise they likley are not but with the limited initial info it's a starting point.

 


 

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1 hour ago, CrackShotMcgee9 said:

Thank you for the response. i didnt think I needed to OC it either but all Im hearing is that it must be my processor, Do you think a SSD will help at all? Some say yes while others say it made no difference to them. Some say to try older drivers for my GPU. I have noticed that the frames do seem to spike right before the screen freezes and then I see the frame counter jump down to 1 or zero real quick and back up. Its really affecting my gameplay and happening at the worst times.

Ok now turn all your power settings to max performance, these are in windows and nvidia control panel.

Re an SSD yes it helps in my experience.

V-sync drops your frames from 60 to 30 when you are not holding the 60. Try turning it off now and see what max FPS your system is giving over a few maps. This will enable us to test the systems stability at max performance without over clocking anything.

Turn the pre loaded map/textures setting in Squad to off for now please (this will minimise the amount of RAM and Vram your using).

Your playing in 1080p at 60hz? Please confirm that via nvidia control panel resolution tab.

Regarding GPU drivers, I have used the latest drivers since Squad started and rarley had any issues, on your set up this should be the same. Go to nvidia site and download the latest ones for your GPU and do a clean custom install, only download the driver and the physx, not nviida geforce, 3d or audio drivers.

 

Disable x-box app in windows settings.

These are some things that I have done over the years.

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1 hour ago, SHO-SHIN said:

Ok now turn all your power settings to max performance, these are in windows and nvidia control panel.

Re an SSD yes it helps in my experience.

V-sync drops your frames from 60 to 30 when you are not holding the 60. Try turning it off now and see what max FPS your system is giving over a few maps. This will enable us to test the systems stability at max performance without over clocking anything.

Turn the pre loaded map/textures setting in Squad to off for now please (this will minimise the amount of RAM and Vram your using).

Your playing in 1080p at 60hz? Please confirm that via nvidia control panel resolution tab.

Regarding GPU drivers, I have used the latest drivers since Squad started and rarley had any issues, on your set up this should be the same. Go to nvidia site and download the latest ones for your GPU and do a clean custom install, only download the driver and the physx, not nviida geforce, 3d or audio drivers.

 

Disable x-box app in windows settings.

These are some things that I have done over the years.

I have tried playing on every resolution and in squads settings and I believe it’s set to 4K in nvidias settings. Like I said I’m new to a lot of this so I won’t pretend I know everything. I will check that when I get home from work and eat back to you and I will try doing what you said with no overclock over a few maps as well. I really appreciate the help. Thanks. 

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32 minutes ago, CrackShotMcgee9 said:

I have tried playing on every resolution and in squads settings and I believe it’s set to 4K in nvidias settings. Like I said I’m new to a lot of this so I won’t pretend I know everything. I will check that when I get home from work and eat back to you and I will try doing what you said with no overclock over a few maps as well. I really appreciate the help. Thanks. 

What monitor are you playing on, post the model number mate and I think we may solve your issue.

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1 hour ago, SHO-SHIN said:

What monitor are you playing on, post the model number mate and I think we may solve your issue.

I’ll check the actually model when I get home but it’s a hisense 43” 4K UHD TV. It has 4 hdmi inputs. 2 are only 30hz and the other 2 are 60hz. I made sure I was hooked up to the 60hz ports

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21 minutes ago, CrackShotMcgee9 said:

I’ll check the actually model when I get home but it’s a hisense 43” 4K UHD TV. It has 4 hdmi inputs. 2 are only 30hz and the other 2 are 60hz. I made sure I was hooked up to the 60hz ports

ok if your playing in 4K then lower frames can be a thing, it's alot of pixels to push!

 

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1 hour ago, SHO-SHIN said:

ok if your playing in 4K then lower frames can be a thing, it's alot of pixels to push!

 

Ya I know that but I’m having the issue no matter what resolution I use in squads settings. Haven’t tried changing them in nvidias setttings though 

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1 hour ago, CrackShotMcgee9 said:

Ya I know that but I’m having the issue no matter what resolution I use in squads settings. Haven’t tried changing them in nvidias setttings though 

Go with 4k on TV, in Squad and Nvidia and turn v-sync off. See what variable refresh rate is given over a few maps etc.

You should get 45-65fps I recon.

Bugs aside, you should consider a monitor to play on IMO. That TV will be a serious pain to drive at high FPS.
 

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14 hours ago, SHO-SHIN said:

Go with 4k on TV, in Squad and Nvidia and turn v-sync off. See what variable refresh rate is given over a few maps etc.

You should get 45-65fps I recon.

Bugs aside, you should consider a monitor to play on IMO. That TV will be a serious pain to drive at high FPS.
 

Ya I hear you. I already intend on getting a gsync. Just one thing at a time right now. Trying to get everything back in order.

 

Also I haven't finished my testing yet but I played for about 3 hours yesterday after messing with the settings a little bit. tioday after work and the gym I will mess around some more. i was getting 49-61fps, around 53 most of the time. i had Vsync on, resolution set to 4k in squad and nvidia, no overclock just my fan curve changed.Turns out my settings in the nvidia control panel were only set to 30hz so i changed them to 60hz, put everything on medium in squad and kept preload textures on.(will try it with them off today and the resolution lower). What a difference. The main issue I was having was all the wall textures moving/tearing especially while in buildings and that has gone away completely. once when I spawned in I had a slight stutter for a second and that was it. Also no dropped frames. I'm playing in borderless too which was the worst before. For some reason while in fullscreen I lost my compass after the first time I'm downed and it never comes back so my gameplay was suffering even more because of that and I was getting more frames in fullscreen and less drops so I was forced to play that way. Game isn't perfect but it is 10 times more playable now and the graphics are so much better. I'm going to try more of what Company Commander recommended today and see if that makes more of a difference. Thanks again for all the help guys I will update my progress tonight after somemore experimentation.

 

Also should note my gpu is getting a little hotter than normal and msi says its running at about 97%. it topped out at 77 degrees wit the fan turned almost all the way up(94%) after 3 hours of play. I know the alienware case is a little cramped. I already plan on water cooling the gpu in the very near future so for now I'll keep an eye on it. Was only hitting about 72-74 degrees before with overclock. I'm not too worried as long as it stays below 80.

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Looks like your almost sorted then mate, good work.

Keep playing around, and when you get your monitor also get a SSD!

Myself and several Squad mates found playing in 4K wasn't really the best, 1440p was. But on your 4K TV if you can keep reasonable frames stick with 4K for now. Search the forum for 4k related issues and how to solve them.

Re GPU heating up, to control that a little install MSI Afterburner/Riva Tuner to cap your max frames, and based on what you have said set the frame limit to 45fps. Sounds crazy but it will deliver a consistent experience and not push your hardware to the max all the time thus reducing system load. It's totally playable at that frame rate.

Re monitor the 'standard' (with my Squad mates) is a 27, 1440p 75hz monitor at 16:9 aspect ratio. Personally I use a 32, 1440p, 144hz monitor at 16:9 aspect ratio and it's glorious.

Good luck with all of that and see you in the battle sometime!

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