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14 hours ago, Dubs said:

The VDV present were 45th Guards, which is a Spetsnaz unit - not only under VDV, but GRU as well. They're a specialized reconnaissance airborne troop.

 

Not actually. I don't know why so many sources make such a strong focus on GRU operational subordination of 45th VDV brigade.

 

GRU is the main intelligence structure of russian military. They cover all aspects of intelligence, financial intelligence, radio intelligence, cyberwarfare, military industry etc. Special operations brigades (SpN GRU) is only one of more than 10 known directorates, 8th Directorate. Beside that, there is also 5th Directorate of operational intelligence (reconnaisance). This directorate controls all reconnaisance activities provided by conventional military units, including 45th VDV. In fact, all military reconnaisance units are operationally subordinated to GRU to some degree. Thus, GRU subordination doesn't really matter for 45th VDV, which in fact provides reconnaisance for VDV on branch level, while others VDV units has their own recon platoons/companies/battalions for regimental/brigade/division level.

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8 hours ago, ZiGreen said:

Not actually. I don't know why so many sources make such a strong focus on GRU operational subordination of 45th VDV brigade.

Information isn't plenty with the 45th Guard, most sources just give limited insight about it's history/creation and their most recent operations then slap down it's affiliation with the GRU, then goes on about their perks of being in the 45th, with being able to claim a MOD mortgage and other stuff lol

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@Dubs VDV is not Spetsnaz, its an entire different branch of service like the USMC as you well know, there is actually a Spetsnaz unit IN the VDV. VDV or Russian Airborne Troops have very similar equipment to the Russian Infantry, major difference being that all guns have folding stocks or weapons that can be quickly assembled, and troop carries like the BMD line are all very lightly armoured. I doubt the Russian forces completely lack any optic as there are combat optics in stock.

@Ivorystate There is still a number of contractors in the RGF but not majority, and scopes are more likely to be distributed to the professionals and not some randoms. Combat sights are standard issue though with the Ratnik program which Spetsnaz and VDV have for now. Eventually, and Putin talked about this, Russia will fully abandon conscription and the army will become 100% professional according to Western standards.

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