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With the eventual overhaul of a more in depth medic game play and the dragging mechanic, the following proposal could not only compliment the changes but add a simple and further emphasis on rewarding teamwork and SL decisions in the heat of a skirmish. I will break them down below! How it works: Players will be categorized into two sections, only a medic can see the state of a player (or player model). These two states are as follows A. Incapacitated (current "downed" system with live player waiting for a medic) B. Critical (player is no longer live, but player model is a valuable target [read full article to see why and how]) Section 1: Systems defining the state of a player A: Causes for incapacitated state Low caliber hits & frag rounds to the body & or multiple hits to the limbs B: Causes for Critical state High caliber hits to the body & low caliber hits to the head (high caliber hits to the head = deceased as per current system) Section 2: Rules for each player state A. Incapacitated Player screen: Incapacitated players go through the same process as they do now, dimmed screen waiting for a revive. Players who press Respawn cause their player model to go into Critical (Their RESPAWN timer is NOT affected) Bleedout to deceased state as per current system B. Critical Players placed in Critical go to respawn screen. Respawn timer +20 from current system Medics who bandage the Critical player model cut down that player Respawn timer in half! Medics who bandage the Critical player model put it into a Stabilized state Stabilized player models have the current bleedout timer increased (for survival gameplay purposes; more on this later) Once the bleedout timer expires, the Critical player models changes over to deceased Section 3: Special Buildings required for game play in further sections A special building is required at a FOB for the two types of systems to be in play. They are the following: 1. A medic station 2. An intel radio (must be manned by a live player) More on this later Section 4: Friendly Critical players gameplay Friendly Critical player models are important and require a medic (and possibly other dedicated players for super efficient transportation) Rules for mechanics to be in effect: A special building (medic station) is required at a FOB for this mechanic to be in play (if it disappears or is dug up, the mechanic will not work) Critical player models may be brought back to MAIN BASE For every # (X) Critical player models brought back to MAIN BASE 1 ticket is refunded (rewarded) Section 5: Enemy Critical players gameplay While some squads may make it a priority to rescue critical player models, the enemy may too. These will be broken down into two sections (C & E) Note: X means up to the devs/community for balance reasons Rules for C: Reduce enemy tickets A special building (intel radio) is required at a FOB for this mechanic to be in play (if it disappears or is dug up, the mechanic will not work) special building does NOT HAVE TO BE MANNED by a live player ENEMY Critical player models may be brought back to your MAIN BASE For every # (X) Critical player models brought back to your MAIN BASE; enemy team has 1 ticket lost Rules for D: intel on the enemy a special building (intel radio) must be manned for this mechanic to be in play (for reasons below) For every X Critical ENEMY player model brought back to your MAIN BASE; the following situation happens The live player manning the special building receives the general location (the SAME current system used for CACHES in Insurgency mode) in YELLOW on their map and their map only The live player will then use these general locations to relay to their SQUAD LEADER and/or local VOIP (was placed for balance but removed due to a good point) If the special building is not manned or is removed; the map locators are wiped If the special building is rebuilt, it is a blank slate and the number and revealings of critical bodies continues (see below) The number and revealings of Critical bodies brought to your main are as follows: 1. 5(or X) ENEMY Critical brought to main = General location of an enemy SL 2. 10 (or X) ENEMY Critical brought to main = General location of an enemy SL rally point 3. 15 (or X) ENEMY Critical brought to main = General location of an enemy vehicle in use 4. 20 (or X) ENEMY Critical brought to main = General location of an enemy HAB /FOB Radio 5. After 20 (or final X) Critical brought to main = rolls over and resets back to step 1. Section 6: Rules for vehicles Vehicles may pick up Critical player models Vehicles may only carry 1/2 of their normal live player seats Empty vehicles with Critical player models can have them removed (or rescued) by a player using the "use button" (to place the player model into a dragging state or just next to the vehicle The proposed system would not only place emphasis on the medic class but also add an additional layer of gameplay for both sides. If played correctly by one side through coordiated teamwork, they can receive a great advantage over the enemy. Feel free to make suggestions or ask questions, I will happily update if this discussion evolves! Best, Gz
I personally think that the anti tank weapons currently are way too overpowered seeing how fast you can get killed if you are in a vehicle. anti tank weapons are heavy and are not easy to keep still for a longer period of time. I personally would like to see improvement on it, perhaps adding more weapon sway which you can stabilize briefly (like a ''really'' heavy sniper rifle), or giving missiles the chance to bounce off would solve this problem
I am interested in what the opinion of the general community and of the dev team is towards adding prototypical items to the game, within reason of course. Obviously with the inclusion of helicopters in the future, there will inevitably be some form of CAS. My question, as someone who grew up as a modder in the early 2000s, is could we potentially see the addition of, whether by official channels, or mods (hint) the RAH-66 Comanche? I don't believe that such a piece of equipment is unrealistic, while yes it was a cancelled project that never left prototype phases, it definitely isn't something that is so unbelievable that it would not fit. My belief in this is that the Comanche could be a very useful piece of equipment for a strong team, due to the fact that one of the designed roles of this helicopter was spotting and designating targets for the AH-64 Apache. These two Helicopters could have a dynamic gameplay loop between the two in the game in the future which could provide for an extremely interesting opponent for guerrilla factions as well as a very fun experience for the CAS squad. On another note: This is a question directed specifically at Devs, should they grace this humble fan's post. Is there a general idea on how the flight mechanics will work, such as being closer to something like PR/BF2, RS2:V, or even ArmA?
Amazing game, been loving it since day one. Couple of things though First off, when emptying an assault rifle, it be AR15 platform or AK platform, heck almost any existing gun platform, the bolt will lock in the back. Now when this happens the weapon makes a distinct metallic clinging sound, which i am deeply fond of because, it sounds cool, and it tells me to reload. This should be added soon, as i find myself too many times facing an enemy with empty mag and weapon. Worst thing is coming behind the enemy and hearing that clicking sound. Second, the M72 LAW which is issued to the anti tank role of US Army is a disposable weapon system, WHICH means that when you've fired it, you throw it away like a condom. For some reason the soldier im controlling is a total retard and choses to store the empty LAW on his back. So when engaging enemy with the LAW, BOOM, then switching to primary and emptying a mag into the abyss, and then switching back to LAW again, this fucking retard brings me the just fired, empty, disposable, condom, and ill have to tell him to reload. Lets fix this, make it a badass animation when throwing away the M72 like a baws. Keep up the good work devs ;) Oh and the sniper is too weak.
To keep consistent with the realism philosophy, I suggest that repair stations should not repair vehicles that are occupied or at the very least, when the gunner seat is occupied, the repair should stop and should not start again for 30 seconds after a gunner leaves the gunner seat. People are camping vehicles at repair stations making the game a little like battlefield, though the repair time is long for vehicles - it breaks the spirit of the game. Example of request: If a vehicle pulls up in range of the repair station with no man in the gunner seat, the repair station begins repairing. If a vehicle pulls up in range of the repair station with a gunner in the gunner seat, the repair station does nothing. If a vehicle is in range of the repair station and a gunner leaves the gunner seat - a 30 second time starts and at the end of the 30 seconds repairs start. If a vehicle is repairing at a repair station and a man enters the gunner seat, repairs stop and the counter does not start until the gunner leaves the gunner's seat.
r3volution posted a topic in Feedback & SuggestionsAfter quite a few matches this weekend playing as Squad Leader, I've realised a lot of the SL's time is chewed up by attempting to get grid refs for spotted targets and enemy positions. I think I've come up with a possible solution to make this a bit easier if it's possible. Allow infantry (non-SL) to place map markers in the same way the SL can, but these are only visible for members of the same squad and shaded differently (enemy = orange, general - yellow or light green). For any map marker placed by a squad member, the SL of that squad could choose to click on that map marker to 'approve it' in the same way a vehicle is approved remotely by the SL. Squad leader can also delete these markers by the same menu as approve. This allows the squad to use markers for themselves without general map clutter, but also allows the squad leader to selectively choose map markers to show to the whole team. TLDR : Allow grunts to place different coloured map markers visible only to their squad. SL's can 'approve' these like vehicles so they appear to the whole team or delete them. Any thoughts?
I was thinking about the gameplay in Squad and what I believe is wrong with it - how to fix it or why it is the way it is. I will start with a little rant / explaining followed by proposed solutions prevent the problems. The way I see it is: players are motivated to "play wrong". Let me explain what I interpret as "playing wrong". I consider it a major gameplay flaw that the game allows/encourages bezerk charges into the frontline, zig-zaging like mosquitoes and having about the same regard for their life as bezerker that nearly OD'ed on his drugs. When I break it down, I see it as two points that "encourage" this kind of behavior: Habit Motivation By "habit" I mean: other games encourage this and they do this by (perhaps unintentionally) motivating players to play like this. Now here comes the crux of the argument: motivation. (Too) Many shooters today offer game progression - the "feature" that is unlocking "new stuff", such as: new weapons or that hello-kitty-knife-skin that would make your 8 year old sister jealous. And before I start expressing my opinion on this matter too much, I just want to add: how many requests have been made to incorporate this into Squad? especially after Steam release... These games are motivating players to get as many points as possible to unlock game "features" that are otherwise not obtainable. Game companies do this to encourage players to spend more time on their game, which is fair enough for them. However, this has severe consequences on the gameplay. When one is motivated to get as many points as possible in order to get their cookie... I mean knife skin, or whatever... they are obviously looking to do this as fast as possible. And how does a game generally provide points? Kills and objectives - kills being the most quickly accessible "source" of points for a solo man/boy seeking a high points-per-hour value. So the aim for the player is to obtain as many points as he can per hour, therefore, kills per hour. Are there any drawbacks for dying? No, just a few short seconds of your time. It is much more points-per-hour efficient to seek and destroy the enemy in a sprinting fashion with little regard of your virtual life than it is to stay alive and play carefully. Who cares if you die? Certainly not the player, he will keep his points and is now that much closer to that "hello-kitty-skin". So what we end up is two teams composed of point-greedy-whores (can I say that?) that have little regard for anything but their own score. They will run around like mad things looking to "steal kills" for quick points and rage at whoever does this to them, because: POINTS! This might be OK for some very casual games, but I personally find it to be a very BAD thing. I will stay away from those games but unfortunately the same people join the "more serious" games I like to play too. That is fine by me but unfortunately the games I like, though they try not to encourage this type of behavior, they certainly don't restrict it. Let's look at Squad specifically. The best times you see how unrealistic a game is, is when you have someone who does that professionally do it all wrong. We have a friend in our group who is in the military - but man, does he play the game "wrong". We are all communicating and teamplaying, in a line-abreast formation engaging contacts in a village from prone position, a good distance away. Our friend (in the military) is squad leading. He has positioned us well and we are dealing with the enemy squad up ahead. I can see that as long as there are contacts in those buildings, our squad leader does not want to move out and risk getting injured which sounds logical. He wants to keep us alive, but this is Squad. That enemy squad has a rally point and they are spawning as quickly as we are killing them. Problem - we will never "clear" this village in this manner. Another problem - every time we kill them, they have better intel on our exact positions and gain an advantage with every engagement. You cannot solve this like in real life because they will keep spawning. The only way is to bull charge this, hope you wipe them out and move in close enough to their rally (wherever it may be) to destroy it. THAT, is what this encourages in order to be successful. Players are also used to that type of "gameplay" or behavior, so seems logical. You die from sprinting all over the place straight towards your enemy? Who cares. Annoy your nearest medic or respawn, no big deal. There isn't much motivating players not to die, as long as there is a rally nearby - so they HARASS THE SQUAD LEADER FOR A RALLY EVERY 15s!!! And when I say straight, I don't mean literally. You can "strafe-sprint", that is to say, you can sprint sideways (in diagonal) with [Shift]+[W]+[A]/[D]. You can change this mid sprint but you always run full speed. The effect is a greatly unrealistic one of a soldier zig-zagging faster than any human could ever accomplish - good luck hitting that at range with ballistics. This is another "feature" that encourages the previously mentioned style of gameplay - running and rushing like mad men on drugs. So, this gameplay encourages chaotic style of gameplay, don't wait for anybody at your rally, sprint towards your intended victims!! I find this experience to be so mediocre, I cannot consider it entertaining. I only ever play Squad with my friends, because we play together, as the game was initially intended (as I interpret it). I must add that the gameplay quality decreased to disastrous proportions on steam release. I will go ahead and assume that this is because pre-alpha gamers were mostly PR (Project Reality) players, and they were/are teamplayers. Those were nice people and fun to play with, all (or 99%) with mics. But now let's look towards the future. How do we resolve this mess? Here are my thoughts on it. Add a momentum system for sprinting. When you start a sprint, you accelerate towards your maximum sprint speed (fairly quickly in a straight line). When you change direction in the sprint, you must accelerate in that direction. Therefore, the sharper the turn in a sprint, the more you are slowed down. This will prevent those bionic-machines from zig-zagging like mosquitoes/flies. MOTIVATE a player to value his virtual life. This one I would tackle in the following way to encourage teamplay as well as better, more realistic gameplay. Increase spawn time. And I mean, really increase it. This is the VERY best way to encourage a player not to die. Think about it, who wants to sit there like a tool doing nothing whilst his friends are fighting? I would add a "squad spectate camera" so that this person may watch his remaining team fight it out. MUTE his mic, so that he may not ghost or otherwise annoy whoever he is spectating: dead people don't talk. Perhaps add a motivational text on his "death screen": "Remember: A real soldier only dies once." He will have time to reflect on this whilst he is sitting there without anything else to do. Add a "wave" system. I find annoying that players run off as soon as they spawn and solo it towards what may be left of their squad. The enemy is having an easy time dealing with one enemy at a time... So, when die: you will spawn in the next wave (for example, every 2 mins there is a new wave), so that you will likely spawn with friends. You still require to choose "spawn", but you are not cleared for spawn until the wave timer is over. There is one condition however: you must wait for 1 minute minimum. Why? To prevent a dead team member from saying: "20s until next wave" and this being a good reason to charge the enemy in a suicide run. With this solution in place, you will miss the next wave and be forced to catch the next wave. You die = you wait. You don't want to wait = don't die. This will motivate players to do anything in their power to ensure survival, and it requires teamwork. Do this and you encourage every player to do his best to stay alive, smoke the threat and retreat, seek a medic, travel long distances to resupply. No more doing suicide runs to resupply because that is much faster - it isn't with this system - so stay alive!!! Lower the number of tickets. This was one in one of the patches but you didn't fix the source of the problem, so rounds were too short. When players don't care about dying they will have little regard for their damage to their own team. When you encourage them to stay alive and thus can afford to lower to ticket count, you make every ticket more valuable. Medics will have more fun! No longer will medics be constantly pestered by idiots that sprinted to their death because they don't care - bother the medic or respawn. Instead, players will take care to survive as long as they can, resupply to ensure survival and medics will have less annoying victims to take care off. Instead, the player will more likely wait for a medic rather than wait all that time for a respawn. The medic now has the time to smoke the area, setup perimeter with friends and get him up and the downed player will gladly wait in order to avoid waiting for a respawn. I truly believe these changes would improve the gameplay. It would slow down the gameplay but - if unlike me you consider that a negative - really encourage teamplay. You always spawn together, you want to increase your chances of survival (anything to avoid death, death = waiting). And in the event you get hit, you want to be close to a medic. Waiting for a medic = better than waiting all that time for a respawn. Spawning in waves also means that when you see a soldier, more likely than not, he will have friends with him - which you must consider before opening fire. This is also more realistic as in real life: if you look left, you look right, and see no friendlies - you did something really wrong! It also means if you get killed by some lone wolf not far from a spawn, there will be a higher chance of you getting revived as friendlies that spawned with you will react to the enemy and a nearby medic will more likely revive you. When your squad has contact they can now ambush or otherwise engage an enemy squad from "safe" positions and when it looks clear, sweep and clear the area in case of survivors. The longer spawn times allow this to be the case. They know they have a bit of breathing room when they successfully wipe a squad. The spawning squad will not want to just rush to that location and risk another death but be clever about it, maybe send one scout to survey the area before committing the whole squad. In any case, I consider this to be a major improvement! Greetings, MistaX32 Edit: spelling mistakes
I was reading through a Dslyecxi's article about an Unreal Tournament mod called ''Infiltration''. That mod is quite old, but it has some really neat and ground breaking game mechanics and features. The article explains very well all of the various features of that mod, but unfortunately all the videos there have been disappeared. I tried to google out some of the videos and i managed to find this . If i remember correctly, all the other videos were also uploaded on youtube, but it's quite hard to find them cause they all are hidden. So you basically need a link to access them, but you can't find one because all the embedded links in Dslyecxi's site are broken. So, is there any way to dig out those videos or can we know if they even exist anymore? I'm pretty certain Dslyecxi doesn't have time or interest in this stuff so i don't even bother to contact him. But if anyone here could somehow find those videos, i (and probably many others) would be pleased. It's a shame if they're lost forever, they demonstrated the games features just perfectly.
First i know its Pre-Alpha and every can change and second i haven't access now, so i can only discussion with the puplic media content. If you are close to a enemy FOB, a magical state bar appear in the upper left corner. Isn't it critical ? because you can detect a enemy FOB without vision ... maybe its possible to make the FOB state bar invisible? Is that a placeholder for the overrun and C4 mechanic or do you have any other plans i the future ? btw. the search funktion need min. 4 letter to work so i cant search for FOB sorry for a eventually double post.
**how do i insert video from youtube? it's kinda broken on mine, PM me pls** In the video, they show us the HMMWV vehicle. And it was awesome! But because this is still on early development, the gunner has no mechanics 'yet' as it seen in the video. In the video, the Machine gun position always following the view of the player 'right away' (so fast) without / regarding the 'speed limit' of the turret. Like, in real life, they should be like 'heavy' and become somewhat slow when rotating the gun. I believe this is gonna be optimized (for sure), and the Dev will working on it. Though when you guys optimizing it, i think iam gonna do some little suggestion. In the old Project Reality:BF2 mechanics, the turret speed is limited (like mouse speed), so it will not go beyond (lets say, i don't know exactly) 4sec/1 rotation turret. In the SQUAD mechanics, i think we should change it using "Sprinting Mechanics System". Not the sprinting, but the idea of the 'head' when running to different direction. The head turn first, then the body. Same like the machinegun's, head turn first, following with the gun it self rotating with limited 'rotation' turn. I think this is good mechanics, but what you guys thought? Let's the discuss begin!
I'm in the 15th MEU and we use a heavily modified Arma 3 with things like weapon resting, realistic medical system, task force radio, magazine repacking, hand signals, barrel heat, the ability to trade equipment and ammo, large backpack radios and small short range ones and more. I'd like to post a couple of videos from youtube show casing this from the 15th MEU and our off shoot the 506th made from former 15th members. These are just for ideas or possibly to see how one of your ideas would work in reference. If you own Arma 3 feel free to come play on the recruit server to test these out first hand. It's open to the public every day but sunday nights. The mod list and links are on the Recruit server tab Teamspeak Address: ts51.gameservers.com:9440 PW:15nd This is not clan recruitment even though it kinda seems like it, this is for devs to see what works and possibly give ideas on making things better. If there is only one thing you take from this let it be Task Force Radio. I have never seen such precise communication with 100 players at once. If you're not familiar with the system you use one button to speak to people near you in direct chat and another to broadcast over the radio. The radio allows for any channel in the xxx.xx range and you can assign different channels to the num pad allowing to quickly swap channels with a button press I.E. 1. Squad, 2. Platoon lead, 3. Actual, 4. Air Support, 5. Armor, 6.Artillery etc. making communication easy and flawless without dozens of people talking over each other at once. You can also assign radio freqs to your left speaker and and other to the right. This allows your squad to be in your left and command in your right. The radios are also effected by range, terrain, and battery life. Last you can pick up a radio off the enemy and use it to listen to their communications. This system borderlines as near necessity in a large tactical game. Another mode in Arma that is simular to PR is Capture the Island. I don't have any videos but it involves both sides building a base somewhere on the map in secret, then defending it while also sending out squads to search and desroy the enemies HQ. You start the round with a Mobile HQ then like an RTS you set it up somewhere hidden and add buildings that give out new weapons and equipment for your men to use. The men then must take towns to connect supply lines like Company of Heroes which turn into points that are used to grow the base. As you encounter towns they are grey (AI) or red (Enemy held) then you use this information to narrow down where the other teams HQ is hidden. Just ideas.
At the Start of the Match every Player will spawn in a Transport vehicle (Aircraft, Helicopters, Trucks, Armoured personnel carriers... etc) which are driving to the location of the Battle. That will happen every 10 minutes. If the player dies he needs to wait 'till the next spawn wave then he can respawn. Good idea or bad idea? -TheTrueLPG