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TheKekIsALie posted a topic in Feedback & SuggestionsHow to make Squad gameplay better by increasing, not decreasing, realism! Why Squad benefits from more realism, gameplay wise- We've all seen the arguments, with the pro-realism crowd annoyed by the addition of weird "nobody asked for this" systems like buddy-rallies, or the removal of dead-dead; and the gameplay-over-realism team asserting that addition of things like realistic armor for vehicles, thermals, or accurate scopes makes the game un-fun or a slog to play through. It's a tale as old as time, and in a lot of cases the differences are irreconcilable, especially when it comes down to personal preference for accuracy or 'fun'. But today, I want to make the case that for many elements some people decry as being realistic to the point of unfun can actually *improve* gameplay: First, let's be clear about what most can acknowledge are the core tenets of Squad- 1. **"Authentic combat experiences"** as per the steam blurb. We're going to make a distinction between accuracy and realism, which while similar in meaning, have connotations that are significant. Squad has authentic gun sounds, visual effects and weapon designs, which make a player feel like they're *immersed* in a modern battlefield. 2. **Teamwork**- Obvious, players should be dependent on each other for individual and team-wide success, lone wolfing should be punished, and tactics should carry the day. 3. **"Bridges the gap between arcade shooter and milsim"** - Well, all this really means is an experience in between Arma (vanilla, ACE adds so much to the game but is beyond the scope of this post) and something like Battlefield 4. Doesn't specify *where* exactly this bridge is, but I'm making the case that it ought to fall more towards the Arma side, or just towards realism in general. For all our disagreements, nobody here really wants the game to become BF4, or even Arma, so we have that much common ground to work with. **Problems I perceive in Squad as of V15, and solutions:** 1. **Lack of consequence for death**- Respawn timers only go so far when it comes to making people unwilling to Rambo or lone-wolf, because, at the end of the day, nobody is actually dying. Making timers longer doesn't help, because nobody likes spending more time sitting and checking reddit on the phone when they're playing a game. In this light, the removal of dead-dead was the most WTF? moment in the game's history, all the more concerning because 3 updates later, it hasn't come back. This is the true crux of the issue, in both infantry and vehicle gameplay, the meta tends to stay at whack-a-mole, with soldiers going down in entrenchments being practically immortal as long as one or two competent medics are on the scene. You have stuff like the Highrise of Life in Al-Basrah, which produced enough fresh insurgents to make China feel infertile, as conventional forces can't make any progress because the actual means of building clearing used IRL, namely frags or HE, simply doesn't work. Squad has no building destruction either, which is actually not something I expect to ever be implemented, but with indestructible hiding holes, attacking some places really makes you feel like the 72nd virgin being offered up haha. Machinegunner? Eh, no biggie, if I die I can be back on my feet in 30 seconds or less, and the lack of suppression means the poor bastard will run out of bullets before I or my buddies run out of bandages Marksmen? The scariest thing for any soldier in an urban battlefield? Gotcha fam, my skull can regrow faster than Wolverine's when a bandage is slapped onto it. Stryker? *I sleep*, because his .50 can only annoy me while I'm getting patched up ****ing T72? Hmm, concerning. *"Oi Ahmed, grab that LAT, Ali, take that ammo-bag, chase him around the block until he runs out of ammo, or the will to live." * Solution: Who could have guessed? Both Project Reality, to which Squad is a "Spiritual Successor", and Post-Scriptum, its younger cousin, manage just fine, with dead-dead, and not just manage, they do it **better**. In fact, PR has insta-death for HE, grenades and IEDs, much like Squad had before the recent patches, while Post Scriptum takes it a step further by making headshots and high calibre rounds dead-dead on hit. Suppression now works as a proper deterrent, both by simulating stress, and also dissuading casual trading of pot-shots with a superior position. It worked great, and we very much need it back ASAP. 2) **Weird meta-shifts in vehicle gameplay**- IRL, vehicles are glass cannons, but in Squad they keep swinging from all-glass in V12 to all-cannon in V13. V14 and 15 makes it 'bAlaNcEd' but at the cost of all the factors that come into consideration for actual vehicle combat. Most modern first-world combat vehicles have thermals, which provide a massive boost to situational awareness, especially in forested and urban areas. In a complete lack of coincidence, these are the places where vehicle drivers refuse to come within a mile of, as anyone who's made the mistake of driving a Warrior or BMP-1 into Basrah can tell you. IRL, urban areas are a real threat, but vehicles are still the ones in control, since unlike in-game, firing a dozen rounds of HE or Frag through the windows of nearby high rises makes sneaking up on them something you only do after exhausting alternatives. But no, we had the *grass-snake* meta for LAT and HAT until a few patches back, when OWI nerfed all AT to the extent that vehicles shrug off shots that would send an Abrams running for the hills. Now it's *"two grass snakes"* as the meta, one LAT and a rifleman with an ammobag to keep him well-fed. Current tank vs tank or IFV battles are weird and boil down to shooting down HP bars until someone overheats first, with Strykers laughing off 30mm rounds that would mulch them otherwise. Infantry complains that they don't have the means of dealing with armor, armor complains infantry can bleed them with a thousand cuts and also doesn't have to worry about spending 20 minutes trundling back and forth from main, as anyone who hasn't managed to get a repair station in Skorpo can tell you. Solution: Realistic armor and AT damage models, so vehicles can be both scary and still vulnerable to infantry fire and other vehicles. Thermals, because it's 2019, and they've been ubiquitous in 1st world armies for **20 years**! Even PR had them, which makes you wonder why they haven't shown up yet. 3) **Visibility and pixel-peeping**- For all it's faults, such as an outdated engine and lackluster PVP, Arma has one feature that Squad could absolutely make use of- The ability to zoom your FOV in and out without the need for a scope. Some claim that it's a *'bionic eye'* but it's actually more realistic than its absence, the zoomed view accurately depicts what an *actual soldier* would be able to see, if you imagine your monitor is a window into the real world. The current view, even at low FOVs, is zoomed out. Not to mention that bad antialising in Unreal makes seeing small targets a nuisance, which compounded by the fact that 1080p monitors can't really let you see more than 200 meters away makes pixel peeping a real eyesore. IRL, soldiers can hit targets at 300m with irons, and even around 500-800 is doable with scoped rifles. Beyond that, wind and random scatter makes hitting man-sized targets difficult. Right now, irons are dubious at best beyond 150 meters, while scopes can manage 300-400. Thus in-game irons are nerfed terribly, and can't be used at the ranges they ought to be. Solution: Literally emulate the zoom mechanic, without the need for optics, because things becoming larger just because you're holding your breath while aiming doesn't really cut it for gameplay or immersion.. **Why some people have been resistant to the addition of more realism to the gameplay-** When considered *in isolation*, any of the mechanics mentioned above can seem detrimental to the gameplay. Thermals seem OP because the vehicles can *tank* (pun intended) much more than they ought to be able to. Stronger AT annoys many vehicle players, because they feel like they can never make their own worth in tickets most of the time anyway, plus any infantry you kill is basically a minute away from coming back to ruin your day. "Bionic eyes aren't realistic" **Conclusion:** There are many ways to balance mechanics through the structure and ruleset of the game, without conceding realism. Most of the vocal opponents of more hardcore elements target individual systems without consideration of the whole, but I hope I can make the case that by all those weird meta switch-ups *wouldn't even have been needed* if the devs put some more effort into letting weapons and equipment balance themselves so to speak, and they wouldn't need to try and satisfy everyone with their own weird ideas of what a modern battlefield feels like. As far as I can tell, the core principles of Squad have been maintained, *without* turning it into Arma, and also preventing further descent into BF4 territory, which has been a recent concern for many of the older vets, especially those with a PR background. What do you guys think? https://www.reddit.com/r/joinsquad/comments/ceb08i/how_to_make_squad_gameplay_better_by_increasing/